Moms With A Call

S1:EP39 The Birth That Changed Everything: Trauma, Advocacy, and Surrender; With Chelsea Hollis

Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Chelsea Hollis, wife, mom of two (with one on the way), family photographer, educator, doula, and birth advocate, to talk about birth/postpartum trauma, surrender, advocacy, and the sacred complexity of motherhood.Chelsea shares how what began as a career in exercise science and corporate fitness slowly evolved into a calling centered around motherhood, storytelling, and supporting women through some of life’s most vulnerable moments. From family photography to birth work, her path unfolded through both purpose and pain.What began as the birth of her first son quickly became something far more complicated. After an induction for cholestasis, Chelsea experienced severe postpartum hemorrhaging, dismissed concerns, and a traumatic emergency during the height of COVID that separated her from both her husband and newborn baby.She opens up about the grief, fear, and rebuilding that followed, and how trauma eventually became an invitation into advocacy.Together, they talk about the gaps in birth education, learning to advocate for yourself inside medical systems, and why informed support can radically change the way women experience pregnancy, labor, and postpartum recovery.But this conversation also moves deeper.Into miscarriage and loss. Into motherhood after trauma. Into the tension between preparation and surrender. Into what it looks like to hold plans loosely while trusting God through outcomes you cannot control.Chelsea shares how birth itself became something deeply spiritual, revealing both vulnerability and strength, fear and faith, grief and beauty all at once.In this episode, they unpack:• Chelsea’s journey from fitness professional to photographer, doula, and educator• Birth trauma, postpartum hemorrhage, and medical dismissal• Becoming an advocate after a traumatic birth experience• Why birth education matters and how to advocate for yourself• The sacred and spiritual nature of birth• Navigating miscarriage, grief, and motherhood after loss• Balancing birth work, business, and family life• Epidurals, birth plans, and informed decision-making• Surrender, open-handed motherhood, and trusting God in uncertainty• Therapy, asking for support, and healing after hard seasonsIf you’ve ever felt fearful about birth…If motherhood has asked you to surrender more than you expected…If you’ve struggled to trust your body, your story, or God after disappointment…This episode is for you.Sometimes faith doesn’t look like certainty.Sometimes it looks like learning to trust God with open hands.EPISODE TIMELINE00:31 – Meet Chelsea Hollis01:13 – From fitness to photography04:37 – Engagement, marriage, and big life changes05:59 – Motherhood and the COVID pivot07:15 – Why Chelsea became a doula08:24 – Induction, cholestasis, and birth trauma10:15 – Postpartum red flags and medical dismissal12:01 – Hemorrhage, emergency D&C, and recovery17:53 – Turning pain into advocacy22:03 – Birth plans and self-advocacy24:30 – Gaps in birth education26:44 – The spiritual nature of birth28:26 – Balancing doula work and photography31:32 – Epidurals, options, and advocacy35:07 – Miscarriage and grief41:35 – Surrender in motherhood42:48 – Hope, healing, and resources45:02 – Closing reflectionsSHOW NOTESDown To Birth Podcast (with Cynthia Overgard and Trisha Ludwig)CONNECT WITH CHELSEAInstagram: @chelseaallegraTikTok: @chelsea_allegraWebsite: www.chelseaallegra.comCONNECT WITH MOMS WITH A CALLJoin the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know.If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com.Intro + Outro Music by Jason BowlesBranding + Design by www.dvoorheisdesigns.com

S1:EP38 The Life We Never Planned: Unexpected Pregnancy, Miscarriage, and Raising Four Kids; With Kassi Gray

Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.In this honest and joy-filled conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with Rebecca’s childhood best friend, Kassi Gray, mom of four, to talk about unexpected motherhood, grief, resilience, and the beautifully chaotic reality of raising a big family.Kassi shares how what began as a college love story quickly turned into an unexpected journey into motherhood when she became pregnant with her first son during sophomore year. She opens up about finishing school while parenting, navigating the unknown, and how becoming a mom changed everything.Together, they talk about the tension of growing up while raising children, the heartbreak of miscarriage, and the ways faith, community, and friendship carry us through life’s hardest seasons.The conversation also explores the reality of parenting four active kids, building family traditions, relying on community support, and learning to reject the pressure of perfection in a social media world that often feels curated instead of honest.They unpack:• Becoming a mom during college and navigating unexpected change• Marriage, moving, and building a family young• Miscarriage, grief, and healing through faith• The beautiful chaos of raising four kids• Sports, structure, and building character in children• Community, family rhythms, and asking for help• Social media pressure, comparison, and authenticity• Friendship, vulnerability, and staying grounded in what mattersIf you’ve ever felt behind, overwhelmed, or unsure if you’re doing motherhood “right,” this episode is a reminder that real life is messy, beautiful, and rarely unfolds the way we planned.Sometimes the most meaningful stories are the ones we never expected to live.Episode Timeline01:05 – Meet Kassi Gray03:09 – College, love, and unexpected motherhood10:19 – Balancing school and parenting14:07 – Miscarriage, grief, and faith16:56 – Raising four kids and family chaos23:41 – Sports, discipline, and family culture33:07 – Community support and family rhythms38:27 – Mom pressure and overwhelm41:24 – Social media, comparison, and authenticity49:05 – Friendship, values, and staying grounded51:37 – Closing reflectionsConnect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you. Your words mean more than you know.If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you.Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com.Intro + Outro Music by Jason BowlesBranding + Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com/

S1:EP37 Midnight Series: Healing in the Middle of the Chaos

Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are honest and faith meets the parts of us still learning how to slow down.In this certified yapper conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca catch up on the beautiful chaos of real life: end-of-school overwhelm, upcoming moves, weddings, toddler milestones, and the emotional exhaustion that builds when life feels loud in every direction.What begins as a casual check-in slowly unfolds into something deeper: a conversation about overstimulation, nervous system healing, motherhood, and learning how to stay grounded in both faith and body.The conversation shifts toward parenting overload and the invisible emotional labor families carry every day. They talk honestly about toddler chaos, emotional dysregulation, and how children often mirror the nervous systems of the adults raising them.Together, they explore the connection between neuroscience and faith, reflecting on Dr. Curt Thompson’s Anatomy of the Soul, attachment styles, emotional awareness, journaling, and the idea that healing is not just spiritual, but deeply physical too.They also share practical ways they’ve been learning to regulate: slowing down, reducing noise, paying attention to emotional triggers, creating space for stillness, and reconnecting with God through honesty instead of performance.If you’ve been feeling emotionally stretched thin…If motherhood has left your nervous system exhausted…If you’re trying to heal spiritually while also learning how to feel safe in your own body…This episode is for you.Sometimes healing isn’t loud.Sometimes it looks like learning how to breathe again in the middle of ordinary life.Episode Timeline00:29 – Life updates and moving02:35 – Toddler chaos stories04:17 – Tate’s speech progress06:13 – New York trip recap10:58 – Emotional triggers and city energy14:59 – Coming home to parenting mayhem18:18 – Overstimulation and stay-at-home parent life24:33 – Regulation tools and nervous system resets35:51 – Modern parenting overload37:29 – Digital detox dreams and slowing down38:48 – Full moon energy and emotional sensitivity40:44 – Intuition and overstimulation43:02 – Anatomy of the Soul and neuroscience45:02 – Attachment styles and connection with God47:01 – Journaling and emotional healing52:31 – Rethinking “pick up your cross”55:50 – Discovering Dr. Curt Thompson’s work57:29 – Motherhood guest series preview01:02:43 – Closing reflectionsConnect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you. Your words mean more than you know.If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you.Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com.Intro + Outro Music by Jason BowlesBranding + Design by https://www.dvoorheisdesigns.com

S1:EP36 Joy, Even Here: A Story Of Kidney Failure, With Haley Rae

Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.
In this powerful and deeply human conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with their good friend, Haley Rae — brand and web designer, wife, sister, and transplant recipient — to walk through a story marked by resilience, grief, and the quiet decision to keep choosing joy.
Haley shares how what began as severe migraines and high blood pressure slowly unfolded into something much more serious… a diagnosis of stage three kidney disease that would eventually progress to kidney failure.
What followed was a season filled with uncertainty. Doctor visits. Treatments that didn’t quite work. Questions without clear answers. And then, in March 2025, everything shifted.
Haley describes the moment her body crashed; critically low hemoglobin, emergency hospitalization, and the sudden beginning of dialysis. What had once been a distant possibility became her everyday reality overnight.
She invites us into what life on dialysis actually looks like. The physical toll. The strict fluid restrictions. The loss of independence. The way your world quietly gets smaller.
But beneath the medical journey is something even deeper.
The grief of delayed motherhood.Two IVF attempts that didn’t go as planned.The emotional weight chronic illness places on marriage, friendships, and identity.
And yet, woven through it all is something steady.
Faith that doesn’t always explain the “why,” but holds her in the middle of it.A mindset shift toward choosing joy, not because circumstances are easy, but because joy becomes a form of survival.
There’s recovery.There’s processing trauma.There’s learning how to live again in a body that has been through so much.
Together, they talk about how hardship clarifies relationships, how receiving help can be just as hard as giving it, and how sometimes the most meaningful support is simply showing up.
Episode Timeline
00:31 – Meet Haley Rae01:59 – Transplant recovery update03:09 – Diagnosis and early signs05:06 – Dialysis and sister match06:47 – Understanding kidney disease08:19 – Emotional whiplash after diagnosis11:09 – Life on dialysis13:05 – Fertility and IVF setbacks20:56 – Choosing joy and mindset23:49 – Support system and community31:00 – Faith through the hardest days37:37 – Gratitude and sharing the story40:24 – Transition into the transplant journey42:09 – Emergency dialysis and health crash43:37 – Fistula timing and medical urgency44:17 – Family donor process48:10 – The match phone call50:29 – Surgery day emotions53:19 – Life after transplant55:44 – Donor recovery and process58:50 – Processing trauma and PTSD01:05:00 – Friendships in hardship01:08:22 – Advice, hope, and surrender01:17:31 – Closing reflections
Connect With Haley:https://studiowilde.comhttps://www.instagram.com/haleyrae____/
Connect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know.If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you. Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com.
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S1:EP35 Autism Awareness: When the Story Changes, but God Stays, With Rebecca Rowan

Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.
In this deeply tender and honest conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca open the door into one of the most personal parts of Rebecca’s life; her journey as Tate’s mom.
What begins as a simple check-in quickly turns into something much deeper. Timed around Autism Awareness Day, Rebecca shares the unfolding story of her four-year-old son Tate, who is nonverbal and navigating a regressive form of autism.
She walks us through the early days and the long, often overwhelming road of seeking answers... pediatric visits, specialist referrals, waitlists, evaluations, and the complex reality of navigating both educational and medical systems. The waiting. The advocating. Not always knowing what comes next.
But this episode is not just about diagnosis.
It’s about grief, the kind that doesn’t always have language. It’s about letting go of expectations while still holding deep love. It’s about rejecting “toxic positivity” and learning how to sit honestly with what is hard.
Rebecca shares how allowing herself to process those emotions didn’t pull her away from Tate; it brought her closer to becoming the mother he actually needs.
And woven throughout it all is faith. Not as a quick answer. Not as a way to bypass pain. But as something that holds both grief and purpose at the same time.
Rebecca shares how her understanding of neurodivergence has shifted, seeing it not just as a challenge, but as something deeply sacred. A different way of experiencing the world. A closeness to God that doesn’t need to be explained to be real.
The conversation closes with a powerful reflection on Tate’s name, explored through Hebrew meaning and numerology — “shield hand” — a reminder of protection, calling, and the possibility that even what feels confusing or heavy may still be held within God’s purpose.
In this episode, they unpack:
Tate’s story and early developmental changes
Navigating regression and recognizing early signs
The long journey through evaluations and diagnosis
Educational vs. medical diagnosis and what that means
Grief, overwhelm, and rejecting toxic positivity
Learning how to process hard emotions honestly
Parenting a neurodivergent child with presence and intention
Seeing neurodivergence as connection, not just difference
Faith that holds both pain and purpose
The meaning behind Tate’s name and themes of protection and calling
Sometimes faith doesn’t take the hard thing away.Sometimes it meets you inside it.
Episode Timeline:
00:00 – Welcome to Moms With A Call
03:19 – Meeting Tate and his story
04:29 – The diagnosis journey begins
08:29 – Early signs and regression
11:36 – Navigating therapy services
12:27 – Why diagnosis takes time
16:17 – Finding speech and occupational therapy
20:53 – Grief and toxic positivity
24:53 – Seeing Tate through the lens of Jesus
28:30 – Neurodivergence and connection to the divine
29:54 – Innocence, presence, and energy
31:16 – Volunteering and perspective
32:29 – Neurodivergence as gift
34:43 – Parenting challenges and support
36:23 – Hebrew meaning and numerology of Tate’s name
42:49 – Divine preparation and purpose
49:25 – Surrender and spiritual order
53:18 – Gratitude and closing
Connect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.
Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know.
If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you.Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com
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S1:EP34 Midnight Series, Between Desire and Guilt: Finding Our Place in the Body of Christ

Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are honest, the reflections run deep, and faith meets real life.
In this episode, McKenzie and Rebecca begin with a few life updates before moving into a deeper conversation about desire, guilt, calling, and what it means to live faithfully with the life God has given you.
From there, the conversation turns toward February’s theme: connection to the body.
What began as a focus on physical awareness slowly unfolded into something deeper...a conversation about desire, limiting beliefs, prayer, and the subtle ways we “should” ourselves out of the lives we long for.
They talk about the small shifts that revealed bigger patterns. Eating more meals at home and noticing how restaurant food affected their bodies. Paying attention to headaches and energy levels. Slowing down enough to notice what the body is actually saying.
Through therapy exercises and honest reflection, they explore the challenge of naming desires that feel off-limits, including the complicated question of whether they want more children and what beliefs might be shaping that answer.
The conversation widens into bigger themes of materialism, privilege, and calling. What does it mean to hold good things without guilt? How do we grieve suffering in the world while still receiving the blessings in our own lives?
Together, they wrestle with the tension between sadness and guilt, and what it looks like to use what you have—your home, your resources, your gifts—in service of others.
They also reflect on the beauty of the body of Christ: a community where people are called to serve in different ways, through different gifts, and in different seasons.
In this episode, they unpack:
February’s focus on connection to the body
Eating at home and noticing physical responses to food
Therapy exercises around naming hidden desires
Wrestling with the question of more children
Limiting beliefs and the pressure of “should”
Materialism, privilege, and humility
Hosting and home as places of fellowship
Guilt versus sadness in the face of suffering
Using blessings as a way to serve others
The body of Christ and different callings
If you’ve ever struggled with wanting something while wondering if you’re allowed to…If you’ve wrestled with gratitude, guilt, or the tension of having more than others…If you’re learning that desire itself might be something God wants to speak through…
This episode offers space to wrestle with those questions honestly.
Sometimes faith isn’t about suppressing desire.Sometimes it’s about bringing it to God and asking what He wants to do with it.
Episode Timeline:
00:00 – Midnight Series intro
00:32 – Dad’s birthday and sourdough bagels
02:12 – Family weekend catch-up
04:02 – Kids entering the sports era
06:13 – Barnes & Noble book signing highlights
09:17 – Publisher updates and uncertainty
09:53 – Renovation surprises
11:11 – Moving to Greensboro plans
13:55 – February recap and shifting desires
15:15 – Eating at home and noticing body signals
18:44 – Desire list exercise
21:29 – Faith and the question of more children
26:09 – Materialism and humility
33:13 – Home as a place of fellowship
34:39 – Privilege and guilt
37:03 – Using blessings to serve
45:50 – Guilt versus sadness
57:27 – Many ways to give
01:00:57 – One body, many parts
01:04:44 – Closing reflections
Connect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.
Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you—your words mean more than you know.
If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you.Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com
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S1:EP33 Come As You Are: Faith, Motherhood, and Making Money Without Sacrificing What Matters, With Sam Bonwick

Sam shares how growing up around marital conflict shaped her early distrust of marriage, and how mentorship later modeled a different way. Through her Amway network marketing community, she encountered couples who embodied partnership, faith, and stability in a way she hadn’t seen before. What began as business mentorship slowly became spiritual reawakening.
She describes being drawn back to God not through pressure, but through a “come as you are” faith. Non-denominational services, healthy marriage models, and curiosity over certainty reshaped how she understood belonging.
This conversation moves gently through joy and grief — through depression, anxiety, panic attacks, and a recent miscarriage that became a profound moment of surrender. Sam speaks honestly about choosing joy as a discipline, not a personality trait, and how faith deepened in the middle of uncertainty.
Together, they explore what it means to be called to both motherhood and money. To reject the narrative that Christian women must choose between presence and provision. To believe that God is not threatened by ambition when it’s anchored in alignment.
They talk about identity beyond motherhood, mental load, dating standards, denominations, faith conversations with kids, and the tension between chaos and clarity when you’re building something new.
They unpack:
Growing up with conflict and doubting marriage
Finding mentorship that modeled healthy faith and partnership
Rediscovering God through curiosity and non-denominational community
Choosing joy through depression, anxiety, and panic
Surrendering through miscarriage and grief
Being called to both motherhood and income
Challenging the belief that Christians must be poor
Identity beyond motherhood
Mental load and the “dad filter”
Planning systems and practical “money-making moves”
Building a Moms in Business community rooted in faith
Sam also shares how she supports moms in business through structured planning systems, intentional income strategy, her “money-making moves” framework, and tools designed to reduce overwhelm and increase clarity.
If you’ve ever felt torn between presence and provision…If you’ve wondered whether ambition can coexist with surrender…If you’re craving faith that feels welcoming instead of performative…
This episode is for you.
You don’t have to become someone else to be used by God.You can come as you are.
Episode Timeline:00:00 – Welcome to the table00:31 – Introductions and recording04:14 – Business background and life transitions06:21 – Family upbringing and marriage doubts07:47 – Searching for purpose and vision for motherhood10:56 – Discovering mentorship through Amway12:12 – Healthy marriage models13:42 – Reframing faith after Catholic school20:51 – Dating standards and meeting her husband27:21 – Choosing joy through mental health challenges32:46 – Called to mom and money40:35 – Identity beyond motherhood45:02 – Returning to curiosity about God45:57 – Denominations and belonging46:48 – Finding a welcoming church49:26 – Baby believer mindset51:10 – Faith conversations with kids52:42 – Curiosity over certainty01:02:56 – From chaos to clarity01:04:37 – Mental load and the “dad filter”01:08:19 – Money-Making Moves GPT01:11:07 – Moms in Business Community01:20:06 – Surrender through miscarriage01:31:47 – Closing reflections
Show Links:Moms in Business Community (Free Facebook Group):https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1HxBQBx4D9/
Connect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.
Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know.
If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you.Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com
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S1:EP32 Midnight Series, “Woo Woo For Jesus.”

Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are late, the lights are low, and nothing is too sacred to say out loud.
In this deeply personal episode, McKenzie and Rebecca explore what it looks like to walk a middle path: holding spiritual curiosity while remaining rooted in Scripture, anchored in Jesus, and guided by discernment.
They talk about “energy” and nervous system regulation not as replacements for faith, but as part of God’s design or tools that can be reclaimed rather than rejected.
This episode also marks the beginning of McKenzie’s “Connection Year,” a season dedicated to reconnecting with self, body, community, and God. She shares how something as simple as baking sourdough became sacred stillness, revealing that what she once called “rest” through reality TV was often just distraction.
Through an exercise tracing her hands, she identifies what she’s been holding that God never asked her to carry and the emotional weight she’s slowly learning to release.
From there, the conversation turns inward to nervous system regulation, health struggles with Hashimoto’s and PCOS, and the inherited beliefs that shaped her relationship with hustle, scarcity, and safety.
This conversation moves gently but honestly through trauma, grace, accountability, and what it means to heal without rewriting the truth.
 
They unpack:
Tate’s ER scare and discerning God’s redirection
Navigating medical anxiety and financial pressure
Asking God for mentorship and finding spiritual guidance
Holding Scripture and spiritual curiosity together
The beginning of a “Connection Year”
Sourdough as sacred stillness
The “What You’re Holding” exercise and releasing burdens
Connecting to the body through nervous system healing
Hashimoto’s, PCOS, and stress patterns
Childhood programming around hustle and approval
Scarcity mindset and achievement-based worth
Family dynamics, trauma, and generational beliefs
Forgiveness, boundaries, and the difference between reconciliation and repair
The rise of no-contact relationships and trusting the Holy Spirit in hard family decisions
If you’ve ever felt torn between honoring your parents and honoring your healing…If you’ve wrestled with rest, control, or feeling safe without striving…If you’re learning that stillness is not laziness, but obedience…
This episode is for you.
Healing doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes it looks like sourdough, surrender, and letting go.
 
Episode Timeline:01:18 – Tate’s ER scare04:42 – Navigating care and financial stress07:52 – Blocked paths and protection10:38 – Finding spiritual mentorship14:06 – Faith meets curiosity20:19 – The Connection Year begins22:42 – Sourdough and sacred stillness31:17 – The “What You’re Holding” exercise36:47 – Connecting to the body41:17 – Divine timing and comparison43:31 – The wound of acceptance45:40 – Healthy escapes and avoidance46:30 – Dad’s hustle blueprint48:36 – Scarcity money mindset50:20 – Approval through achievement52:24 – Control, trust, and surrender57:15 – Family dynamics and values01:02:23 – Therapy, grace, and trauma01:08:49 – No contact and repair01:23:41 – Forgiveness, boundaries, and faith01:27:00 – Closing reflections
 
Connect with Moms With A Call:Join the conversation with McKenzie + Rebecca on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallGet show updates, behind-the-scenes moments, and more at www.momswithacall.comListen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts: Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon.
Leave a review and let us know how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know.
If you or someone you know has a story of faith, healing, or redemption that could encourage others, we’d love to hear from you.Reach out to us at momswithacall@gmail.com
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S1:EP31 Synesthesia & Scripture: Heather Eck on Spirit Portraits & God as the Source

Welcome back to Moms With A Call, where real stories meet real faith.
In this beautifully layered conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca sit down with multimedia abstract artist and writer Heather Eck, an intuitive painter and color healing practitioner who creates spirit portraits and experiences synesthesia, seeing and sensing color in people’s energy and emotions.
Heather shares her journey from two decades in corporate HR to stepping fully into her creative calling after burnout became an invitation back to God. What began as exhaustion turned into surrender. And surrender led her back to the creativity she once held as a child.
Raised Methodist but always spiritually curious, Heather opens up about how deep Bible study since 2020 reshaped her understanding of intuition, chakras, numerology, and energy. Rather than separating these tools from Christianity, she describes returning to God as the Source; the One who created color, vibration, symbolism, and meaning in the first place.
This episode isn’t about abandoning Scripture. It’s about wrestling with it, studying it deeply, and asking how ancient Hebrew language, pictographs, and symbolism reveal a layered, living faith.
Together, they explore what discernment looks like in spiritually complex spaces, how to recognize “low-level” or draining energy, and why surrender often shows up through synchronicities, repeated numbers, and unexpected confirmations.
They also talk through:
Heather’s transition from corporate burnout to full-time artist
Art as “sermons” and creativity as worship
Hebrew letters, numerology, and symbolic meaning in Scripture
Reconciling spiritual tools with biblical literacy
Spiritual warfare, protection practices, and prayer
Nervous system regulation, triggers, and energetic boundaries
Blocked energy and how unprocessed emotions show up in the body
The chakra color system (red through violet/white) and what each center represents
McKenzie’s pink “higher heart” portrait and themes of trust and control
Spirit portraits, creative healing journeys, and community calls
Synesthesia, seeing color in others, and sensing emotional fields
If you’ve ever felt spiritually curious but unsure where curiosity meets conviction, this episode makes space for the in-between. It honors questions without demanding certainty. It invites discernment without fear.
This conversation is for those who love Scripture and also sense that God’s creativity may be wider than we were taught.
Episode Timeline
00:31 – Meet Heather Eck
02:12 – From corporate burnout to creative calling
04:14 – Methodist roots and spiritual curiosity
07:38 – Reconciling spiritual gifts with Scripture
12:30 – Surrender, synchronicities, and Hebrew numerology
17:43 – Spiritual tools and returning to God as Source
20:12 – Spiritual warfare and protection practices
23:54 – Triggers, boundaries, and nervous system regulation
30:52 – Blocked energy and how it shows up in the body
37:02 – Higher heart (pink), trust, and control
38:53 – Core wounds and generational patterns
40:00 – Chakra color overview: red to violet
43:38 – Working with color in everyday life
50:00 – Seasons, style, and energetic alignment
53:25 – Body symptoms, journaling, and healing prompts
55:38 – Spirit portraits and creative healing journey
58:17 – Synesthesia and seeing color around people
01:02:59 – Final reflections and invitation
Episode Links:
Heather Eck Website:https://heathereck.com/
Instagram:@heathereckartist
Anatomy of the Spirit by Caroline Myss:https://www.amazon.com/dp/0609800140
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Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, & YouTube → @momswithacallShow updates and more → www.momswithacall.comListen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and AmazonLeave a review and tell us how this episode moved you — your words mean more than you know.
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S1:EP30 Midnight Series, Seeking Spiritual Maturity: A Year of Healing, Growth and Holy Reflection with Rebecca Rowan

Welcome back to the Midnight Series, where the conversations are real and the walls come down.
In this intimate, heart-to-heart episode, Rebecca reflects on a year marked by unraveling, healing, and the slow, sacred work of becoming. What began as a search for clarity turned into an invitation to slow down, listen deeper, and let God meet her beneath the noise.
This episode weaves together reflections on choosing a word for the year, navigating spiritual warfare and anxiety, and learning how to create space for God’s voice in a world that never stops talking. Through honest conversation, McKenzie and Rebecca open up about shedding old identities, regulating their nervous systems, and discovering that spiritual maturity isn’t about perfection, but presence.
It’s a conversation about learning to sit still long enough to hear God, brave enough to face fear, and tender enough to allow healing to unfold in its own time.
We talk about:
Reflecting on a year that stretched faith and deepened trust
The power of choosing a word and letting it shape your spiritual posture
Slowing down to create space for God in a chaotic world
Prayer, solitude, and regulating the nervous system for deeper connection
Spiritual warfare, anxiety, and learning to stand grounded instead of afraid
Embracing your true identity and honoring the unique work God is doing in you
Why spiritual maturity looks more human than polished
If you’re in a season of reflection, healing, or quiet reorientation, this episode feels like a soft landing. A reminder that growth doesn’t always shout; sometimes it whispers.
Episode Timeline:00:29 – Cozy vibes, pets, and settling in01:42 – Capturing moments and the tension of presence02:47 – Reflecting on 2025 and a rough beginning06:02 – Spiritual journey and personal growth10:01 – Prayer, solitude, and sacred stillness16:33 – Seeking deeper connection with God23:16 – Slowing down in a world that rushes25:03 – Regulating the nervous system for spiritual clarity26:01 – Generational shifts in spiritual formation26:42 – Technical hiccups and energetic conversations27:13 – Personal resolutions and spiritual journeys27:52 – God’s unique work in every individual28:32 – Convictions, truth, and discernment31:55 – Spiritual warfare and overcoming fear33:48 – Healing through spiritual awakening41:42 – Looking back on a year of growth48:15 – Spiritual maturity and embracing humanity49:53 – Closing reflections and what’s ahead
This episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and trust that God is still working, even when the progress feels quiet.
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